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Post by MBTGOG Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:59 am

First topic message reminder :

15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/ Leinster)
14 - Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster)
13 - Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/ Leinster)
12 - Paddy Wallace (Ballymena/ Ulster)
11 - Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/ Leinster)
10 - Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
9 - Tomas O'Leary (Dolphin/ Munster)
1 - Tom Court (Malone/Ulster)
2 - Sean Cronin (Leinster)
3 - Tony Buckley (Sale)
4 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
5 - Leo Cullen (Blackrock College/Leinster) Captain
6 - Mike McCarthy (Buccaneers/ Connacht)*
7 - Niall Ronan (Shannon/ Munster)
8 - Denis Leamy (Cork Constitution/Munster)

Replacements:
16 - Jerry Flannery (Shannon/ Munster)
17 - Marcus Horan (Shannon/Munster)
18 - John Hayes (Bruff/Munster)
19 - Mick O'Driscoll (Cork Constitution/ Munster)
20 - Kevin McLaughlin (St Mary's College/ Leinster)
21 - Isaac Boss (Terenure College/ Leinster)
22 - Felix Jones (Shannon/ Munster)*


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Post by Thomond Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:50 am

http://en.kingofsat.net/

This site may help although obviously some channels are encrypted.

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Post by MMC Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:54 am

I don't know about everyone else but I'm very much looking forward to seeing what Paddy Wallace and Sexton can do together. Defensively I don't see a problem with that combo. Plus, don't forget the problems that Morrison gave D'Arcy there a few seasons ago in the 6 Nations.

I attack I think they'll be very exciting, and creative.
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:57 am

MMC wrote:I don't know about everyone else but I'm very much looking forward to seeing what Paddy Wallace and Sexton can do together. Defensively I don't see a problem with that combo. Plus, don't forget the problems that Morrison gave D'Arcy there a few seasons ago in the 6 Nations.

I attack I think they'll be very exciting, and creative.

Couldn't agree any more. I think Wallace is a much more complete player than Darcy tbh and will compliment us more. Defenceive issues will Wallace are hugely overrated IMO.

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Post by Thomond Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:58 am

Wallace and Sexton is going to be awesome Drool

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Post by Boyne Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:08 pm

Thomond wrote:Rog has to start Run

Thought he was running for pres?

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Post by MBTGOG Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:12 pm

Not going to be announced till 1PM.

It will be live on irishrugby.ie

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:15 pm

Awesome. Smile

I can see us all being a little bit surprised in the next 45 mins, have a feeling that we won't see something coming.

Luke Fitz at 15
🤦

Laugh

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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:17 pm

No PLEASE NO! I would be keen to see how Jones gets on at 15. If he does well, give him another warm up game, if he doesn't shine, let the idea rest!

Excited about Paddy Wallace silencing his critics!

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Post by MMC Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:18 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Awesome. Smile

I can see us all being a little bit surprised in the next 45 mins, have a feeling that we won't see something coming.

Luke Fitz at 15
🤦

Laugh

Don't even joke pete. Shocked

Incidentally, I like the idea of a Fitz-Kearney-Trimble back 3.
Fitz's best position is 11, Kearney's is 15 and Trimble's is 14. Sure it may not have the panache of a back 3 containing Earls and Bowe but it's still pretty damn good.

Can't wait to see Kearney actually. He'll surprise a few.
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Post by MBTGOG Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:20 pm

MMC wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Awesome. Smile

I can see us all being a little bit surprised in the next 45 mins, have a feeling that we won't see something coming.

Luke Fitz at 15
🤦

Laugh

Don't even joke pete. Shocked

Incidentally, I like the idea of a Fitz-Kearney-Trimble back 3.
Fitz's best position is 11, Kearney's is 15 and Trimble's is 14. Sure it may not have the panache of a back 3 containing Earls and Bowe but it's still pretty damn good.

Can't wait to see Kearney actually. He'll surprise a few.

Which few will he surprise though? Wink

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:24 pm

clivemcl wrote:No PLEASE NO! I would be keen to see how Jones gets on at 15. If he does well, give him another warm up game, if he doesn't shine, let the idea rest!

Excited about Paddy Wallace silencing his critics!

He may get a bit from the bench. But Kearney is in urgent need of as much gametime as possible.

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Post by WillyGilly Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:30 pm

Right. Away out to pump some iron at the gym. Will check in for the good news at some point and please lord let it be good.

Oh and in advance. Rodders and sin e keep it clean.
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:33 pm

I am excited about a lot of this team tbh. Smile this is gonna be good!!!!!!!

I hope

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Post by WillyGilly Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:37 pm

You keep it clean as well Pete, with all your questions and opinions. You think I don't realise what you're up to????
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:40 pm

Hahaha will try Willy I promise. If you come back in a few hours and see me ranting away at Sin at Rodders please quote this and maybe, just maybe, I will see sense! Enjoy buddy

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Post by MMC Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:44 pm

MBTGOG wrote:
MMC wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Awesome. Smile

I can see us all being a little bit surprised in the next 45 mins, have a feeling that we won't see something coming.

Luke Fitz at 15
🤦

Laugh

Don't even joke pete. Shocked

Incidentally, I like the idea of a Fitz-Kearney-Trimble back 3.
Fitz's best position is 11, Kearney's is 15 and Trimble's is 14. Sure it may not have the panache of a back 3 containing Earls and Bowe but it's still pretty damn good.

Can't wait to see Kearney actually. He'll surprise a few.

Which few will he surprise though? Wink

I'm hoping that it'll be the "Kearney shouldn't be within an ass's roar of the squad" camp MBTGOG. Wink
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Post by MBTGOG Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:46 pm

I'm going out for a bit so won't be here when it is announced. I'll put it in the article when I get back but I'm sure you can do without it up there for reference for a bit.


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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:47 pm

I really hope he does light up!
The pics I've seen of him show him running in space...............

prayers?

answered?

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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:59 pm

http://www.irishrugby.ie/matchdaytv/index/index/id/8871

415 of us watching!

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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:00 pm

I wonder do the journos know we can over hear them?

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Post by valjester Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:06 pm

Niall f***ing ronan 🤦

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Post by KiaRose Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:07 pm

Kearney
Trimble
mcFadden
wallace
fitzgerald
sexton
tol
court
cronin
buckley
ryan
cullen
mccarthy
ronan
leamy

flannery
horan
hayes
mclaughlin
mod
boss
jones

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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:07 pm

Oleary
Sexton
Fitz
Wallace
Mcfadden
Trimble
Kearney

Court
Cronin
Buckley
Cullen
Ryan
McCarthy
...

Didnt catch the rest...

whered everyone go?

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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:08 pm

Good job KiaRose,

Very happy with backs, forwards are surprising!

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:09 pm

Yikes
Ronan?
McCarthy?
2 props on the bench.
Lots of interesting stuff here.

No Conor Murray though

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:10 pm

I think your backrow will be massacred on Saturday. Your backs may cause some problems for us though
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Post by valjester Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:10 pm

Backrow and front row are weak but I supposed that is too be expected with the leinster munster players being rested. If ryan plays well you'd expect him to go. Murray won't be going based on this selection. 10-12-13 axis looks very exciting.

And just to repeat niall f***ing ronan 🤦

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Post by Boyne Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:11 pm

Laughable.

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:11 pm

Hey it's experementation it's what we want.

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Post by valjester Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:12 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Yikes
Ronan?
McCarthy?
2 props on the bench.
Lots of interesting stuff here.

No Conor Murray though

Mc Carthy is a very good player, not worried about him.

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Post by Thomond Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:13 pm

Our backrow and front row are awful. Scotland should win this one.

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:13 pm

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:
MMC wrote:I wouldn't like to see us play a backrow of something like McLaughlin - Henry - Leamy. I think it'd be far too weak against that Scottish backrow. Rennie would have a field day on the floor against Henry.

Who would you go with at 7 then?

Niall Ronan! Smile 🤦

Goes to show, you should never joke about things like that.

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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:15 pm

Yea, i'm more than happy to look at these players in the forwards at this stage. Duno what the fuss is really.

Were people looking our strongest XV? Really? what would be the point of that at this stage.

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Post by valjester Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:15 pm

Boyne wrote:Laughable.

Why don't you expand on your point, I don't see what is so laughable about that side. After what kidney has said all week about the leinster and munster players being behind the rest of the squad in their preseason, the team is along expected lines.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:15 pm

Boyne wrote:Laughable.

Now remind me of your prediction for the score, Boyne?! Laugh

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:15 pm

Cleaned up and official like.

15. Robert Kearney
14. Andrew Trimble
13. Fergus McFadden
12. Paddy Wallace
11. Luke Fitzgerald
10. Jonathan Sexton
9. Tomas O'Leary

1. Tom Court
2. Sean Cronin
3. Tony Buckley
4. Leo Cullen (C)
5. Donnacha Ryan
6. Mike McCarthy *
7. Niall Ronan
8. Denis Leamy

16. Jerry Flannery
17. Marcus Horan
18. John Hayes
19. Mick O'Driscoll
20. Kevin McLaughlin
21. Isaac Boss
22. Felix Jones *

* Denotes new caps

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Post by red_stag Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:17 pm

The breakdown of the subs bench is very interesting. A full front row. MOD is pointless to have there if McCarthy and Ryan and Cullen are there. I'd have rathered someone who can cover 7.
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Post by Notch Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:18 pm

Yes, and only one outside back- anyone else get the sense we might see Sexton come off in the 2nd half and Wallace move inside?
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Post by MMC Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:19 pm

Thomond wrote:Our backrow and front row are awful. Scotland should win this one.

The front row isn't awful. It's weak compared to our first choice but it's not awful.
Court is finally playing in position in an Ireland jersey. Cronin deserves a start. Buckley is Buckley but we were hardly going to play Ross in this game and the other option is Hayes, who people would complain about too.

The backrow is bad though, no doubt. I haven't seen enough of McCarthy to comment other than the one time I did see him, in the Amlin I think, he was actually very good. He may even have been MOTM that night.

Leamy at 8, I suppose we had little choice.

I'd have played Wallace at 7 though, then again against England with O'Brien taking the France games. Niall Ronan is no more than fine in the Pro 12, in an international against a very good Scotland backrow. Forget it.

Backs look good though, if they get the ball. This was it for Murray I'd say, don't see him making the plane now. Which is fair enough (even if disappointing on a personal level).


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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:19 pm

Backs are fine.

As predicted in fact.

The back row is a bit weird, but hey. It's week one.

2 x front rows means lots of rotation. Good imo. would not expect Hayes or Horan to travel barring injury, but injury is a real posibility.

Would have expected Fla to start.

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Post by Thomond Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:20 pm

Was a bit harash on the frontrow,but God do I fear for them especailly with Mushy.

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Post by red_stag Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:21 pm

Looks like at some point we could see a backline of :

10 Wallace
11 Kearney
12 McFadden
13 Fitzgerald
14 Trimble
15 Jones
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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:21 pm

Notch wrote:Yes, and only one outside back- anyone else get the sense we might see Sexton come off in the 2nd half and Wallace move inside?

With only Jones to come on, i don't follow what the switch around would be. Mcfadden to 12... what next? Fitz to 13 and so on?

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Post by greybeard Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:22 pm

Boyne wrote:Laughable.

Experimental rather than laughable, I'd say. But some strange decisions.

Was Niall Ronan even in the squad?
McCarthy has played all season in the second row, there are other 6's to look at. Kidney will learn nothing playing him out of position, except that he shouldn't pick him.
An ageing set of front row replacements, I wouldn't have them all in the same match squad. I would prefer that they were spread over different matches.
There's almost too much in the way of second strings, there will be little cohesion, especially in the pack.

I'm happy enough with the backs

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:24 pm

red_stag wrote:Looks like at some point we could see a backline of :

10 Wallace
11 Kearney
12 McFadden
13 Fitzgerald
14 Trimble
15 Jones

That means they would expect Kearney to make 80 mins in a test match. Might also be a straight swap (edit: for Jones) and as you were.

Boss can cover the back three (just another way he is similar to TOL) that might be a factor.


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Post by MBTGOG Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:24 pm

The backrow is the biggest problem but this is Leamy's big chance to shine.

Like the look of the second row.


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Post by MMC Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:24 pm

MBTGOG wrote:The backrow is the biggest problem but this is Leamy's big chance to shine.

Like the look of the second row.


Agreed. Second row looks very nicely balanced.
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Post by clivemcl Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:25 pm

Yea Red Stag, thats what i thought, that four positional shifts for one sub. Thats pretty unusual! Showing off some might say!

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Post by Boyne Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:25 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Boyne wrote:Laughable.

Now remind me of your prediction for the score, Boyne?! Laugh

I said that it will be a score either way.

Its a very weakened team, extremely in fact. But, I dont happen to think Scotland are much good. So, it will be a terrible scrap in a ghostly Murrayfield.

If pushed, I'll go for 15 17 to Scotland.

OK?

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Post by valjester Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:26 pm

MMC wrote:
Thomond wrote:Our backrow and front row are awful. Scotland should win this one.

The front row isn't awful. It's weak compared to our first choice but it's not awful.
Court is finally playing in position in an Ireland jersey. Cronin deserves a start. Buckley is Buckley but we were hardly going to play Ross in this game and the other option is Hayes, who people would complain about too.

The backrow is bad though, no doubt. I haven't seen enough of McCarthy to comment other than the one time I did see him, in the Amlin I think, he was actually very good. He may even have been MOTM that night.

Leamy at 8, I suppose we had little choice.

I'd have played Wallace at 7 though, then again against England with O'Brien taking the France games. Niall Ronan is no more than fine in the Pro 12, in an international against a very good Scotland backrow. Forget it.

Backs look good though, if they get the ball. This was it for Murray I'd say, don't see him making the plane now. Which is fair enough (even if disappointing on a personal level).

The frontrow is our second choice, they need gametime, and we can't expect healy and ross to play every single game. Mc Carthey is good imo, and leamy was always going to get gametime. The backrow isn't actually that bad if you ignore ronan and I don't think there was much choice there. Sob and wallace will cover 7 for the world cup but both have played a lot of rugby in the last year. Then with jennings injured, it was always likely to be ronan. Murray was never going to go.

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