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Post by Guest Sun May 08, 2011 5:54 am

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Made me long for the heady days of Hopkins/Calzaghe!!!

Off to bed, no further comment to make on that snore-fest except to say that Mayweather should sign to fight Manny IMMEDIATELY


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Post by D4thincarnation Fri May 13, 2011 4:37 pm

Kinda puts to bed that argument that Pacquiao is not a big puncher.

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Post by coxy0001 Fri May 13, 2011 4:49 pm

To be honest D4, Mosley has said it but that whole interview does not sound like Mosley speaking in the slightest.

I've never really heard him swear, let alone use language i'm more accustomed to hearing any Mayweather use.

Still think he's trying to use it as a smokescreen for not engaging from the first bell onwards (and he wasn't active in the first 2 rounds) and just running with his cheque. Not quite sure how he thinks Manny hit him harder than Forrest did as he was nearly out cold in that fight.....

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Post by coxy0001 Fri May 13, 2011 4:52 pm

For instance, Hatton has said he was a finished version by the time he fought Manny etc etc etc

All i'm saying is boxers will try and cover themselves and a pfish-poor showing by maybe exagerrating reasons why they were so rudey poo etc.

Anyway, have fun frothing over Manny this weekend.

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Post by Young_Towzer Fri May 13, 2011 5:57 pm

For instance, Hatton has said he was a finished version by the time he fought Manny etc etc etc

All i'm saying is boxers will try and cover themselves and a pfish-poor showing by maybe exagerrating reasons why they were so rudey poo etc.

Anyway, have fun frothing over Manny this weekend.
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He didnt look finished to me when he put in a punch perfect display against Malignaggi and was sat on a sofa saying 'same move every time', if i saw Ricky i'd say whats your response to 'same move every time' when it was the 'same move every time' that effectively retired you.

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Post by BALTIMORA Fri May 13, 2011 5:59 pm

Steven_89 wrote:For instance, Hatton has said he was a finished version by the time he fought Manny etc etc etc

All i'm saying is boxers will try and cover themselves and a pfish-poor showing by maybe exagerrating reasons why they were so rudey poo etc.

Anyway, have fun frothing over Manny this weekend.
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He didnt look finished to me when he put in a punch perfect display against Malignaggi and was sat on a sofa saying 'same move every time', if i saw Ricky i'd say whats your response to 'same move every time' when it was the 'same move every time' that effectively retired you.

Malignaggi can't punch his way out of a wet paper bag though, figuratively speaking, and as you point out there's a difference between saying 'same move every time' and doing something about it.

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Post by D4thincarnation Fri May 13, 2011 6:02 pm

Steven_89 wrote:For instance, Hatton has said he was a finished version by the time he fought Manny etc etc etc

All i'm saying is boxers will try and cover themselves and a pfish-poor showing by maybe exagerrating reasons why they were so rudey poo etc.

Anyway, have fun frothing over Manny this weekend.
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He didnt look finished to me when he put in a punch perfect display against Malignaggi and was sat on a sofa saying 'same move every time', if i saw Ricky i'd say whats your response to 'same move every time' when it was the 'same move every time' that effectively retired you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRZfsUwtIKU

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 8:44 pm

Pacquiao vs Mosley looks to have done about 1.4 million in PPV making it one of the biggest PPV fights of all time and the most made by Pacquiao, as well as generating more money than the Mosley vs Mayweather fight.


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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun May 15, 2011 8:48 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:Pacquiao vs Mosley looks to have done about 1.4 million in PPV making it one of the biggest PPV fights of all time and the most made by Pacquiao, as well as generating more money than the Mosley vs Mayweather fight.


Wow imagine how p**sed off you would be if you paid to watch that. Would make you think twice about buying another fight if you were just a casual boxing fan.
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Post by azania Sun May 15, 2011 8:50 pm

Should this thread be the post post Manny v Mosley thread?

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 8:59 pm

azania wrote:Should this thread be the post post Manny v Mosley thread?

I believe so since it is about the fights PPV number and it is after the said fight.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 9:06 pm

Should it now be merged with the main Manny thread then?

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:19 pm

BALTIMORA wrote:Should it now be merged with the main Manny thread then?

No, maybe you read the Manny and Floyd sticky again.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun May 15, 2011 9:21 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:Should it now be merged with the main Manny thread then?

No, maybe you read the Manny and Floyd sticky again.

So when it goes off topic and becomes about the usual drivel it can be merged without you having another temper tantrum.
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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 9:27 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:Should it now be merged with the main Manny thread then?

No, maybe you read the Manny and Floyd sticky again.

So when it goes off topic and becomes about the usual drivel it can be merged without you having another temper tantrum.

I'm amazed he managed to write 'Manny and Floyd sticky' without slipping into a stupor...

Seems like it's almost run it's course now though. PPV figures are in, that wraps it up.

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:28 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:Should it now be merged with the main Manny thread then?

No, maybe you read the Manny and Floyd sticky again.

So when it goes off topic and becomes about the usual drivel it can be merged without you having another temper tantrum.

No, those threads are only for trival news not conected with fights.

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:28 pm

BALTIMORA wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:Should it now be merged with the main Manny thread then?

No, maybe you read the Manny and Floyd sticky again.

So when it goes off topic and becomes about the usual drivel it can be merged without you having another temper tantrum.

I'm amazed he managed to write 'Manny and Floyd sticky' without slipping into a stupor...

Seems like it's almost run it's course now though. PPV figures are in, that wraps it up.


Don't worry there is still more to come.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 9:28 pm

PPV numbers are fairly trivial, merge it I say

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:29 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:PPV numbers are fairly trivial, merge it I say

1.4m is not trivial

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 9:30 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:PPV numbers are fairly trivial, merge it I say

Merge it or lock it. The fight is history now. There's nothing more really to add to this discussion.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 9:32 pm

It's a bit of trivia

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:33 pm

BALTIMORA wrote:
The Mighty Atom wrote:PPV numbers are fairly trivial, merge it I say

Merge it or lock it. The fight is history now. There's nothing more really to add to this discussion.

What do people think of these numbers.

Does it just show Manny's popularity is still growing and people were really intrigued by the fight.

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Post by Rowley Sun May 15, 2011 9:34 pm

Dan Brown sells a lot of books

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Sun May 15, 2011 9:35 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:
The Mighty Atom wrote:PPV numbers are fairly trivial, merge it I say

Merge it or lock it. The fight is history now. There's nothing more really to add to this discussion.

What do people think of these numbers.

Does it just show Manny's popularity is still growing and people were really intrigued by the fight.

Shows what a popular fighter Mosley is.

Shame for the 1.4m that it was such a cack fight, might hurt future ppv numbers.
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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 9:36 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:
The Mighty Atom wrote:PPV numbers are fairly trivial, merge it I say

Merge it or lock it. The fight is history now. There's nothing more really to add to this discussion.

What do people think of these numbers.

Does it just show Manny's popularity is still growing and people were really intrigued by the fight.

It shows:

There's one born every minute.

Manny fights sell even against big name shot opponents.

There's no more to add to this thread.

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:38 pm

Manny made about $30 million from this fight.

It also could be the start of the shift in power from HBO to Showtime.


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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 9:39 pm

Someone lock this thread.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun May 15, 2011 9:40 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:Manny made about $30 million from this fight.

It also could be the start of the shift in power from HBO to Showtime.


Doubt it how many fights does Poochi have left 4 at the most? HBO will still show most of the other top fighters. They have a good contract with GBP.
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Post by coxy0001 Sun May 15, 2011 9:41 pm

Yup. Lock it.

Has run its course. We're all tired of it.


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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 9:43 pm

Madonna has sold more than Beethoven but who's the better musician?

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:47 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:Madonna has sold more than Beethoven but who's the better musician?

Different eras

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 9:49 pm

James Galway or Madonna?

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 9:52 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:James Galway or Madonna?

Who is James Galway?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun May 15, 2011 9:57 pm

The Spice Girls or Ocean Colour Scene?
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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 9:59 pm

Pirates of the Caribbean or The Shawshank Redemption?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 10:03 pm

Owned again

Who's Manny Pacquiao?

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 10:08 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:Owned again

Who's Manny Pacquiao?

Dunno but he sold more PPVs than SRR...

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 10:09 pm

prettyboykev wrote:The Spice Girls or Ocean Colour Scene?

Not a big fan of either

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BALTIMORA wrote:Pirates of the Caribbean or The Shawshank Redemption?

I prefer Shawshank Redemption

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 10:11 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:Owned again

Who's Manny Pacquiao?

One of the greatest boxers of all time.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 10:15 pm

Never heard of him must be rubbish

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 10:17 pm

It is clear by theses PPV figure that Pacquiao is by far the biggest star in boxing.

It will be interesting to see if he can topple Oscar from the top of the PPV tree.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 10:19 pm

In the absence of any other star in boxing it's obvious that the general public would pay, were it more competitive it would be vastly different.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun May 15, 2011 10:22 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:It is clear by theses PPV figure that Pacquiao is by far the biggest star in boxing.

It will be interesting to see if he can topple Oscar from the top of the PPV tree.

What would this prove?
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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 10:24 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:It is clear by theses PPV figure that Pacquiao is by far the biggest star in boxing.

It will be interesting to see if he can topple Oscar from the top of the PPV tree.

What would this prove?

He is the face of boxing, boxing biggest star, the most popular boxer in the world and a boxing icon.


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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun May 15, 2011 10:26 pm

Would like to see him do those numbers while Hatton, De La Hoya and Mayweather were around

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Post by D4thincarnation Sun May 15, 2011 10:30 pm

It is pretty amazing because the lighter weights get very little recognition.


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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun May 15, 2011 10:32 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:It is pretty amazing because the lighter weights get very little recognition.


Below featherweight yes but welterweight has always been a very popular division in the main.

He's hardly Ricardo Lopez in that sense.
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Post by BALTIMORA Sun May 15, 2011 11:03 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:Pirates of the Caribbean or The Shawshank Redemption?

I prefer Shawshank Redemption

It's one of the most highly acclaimed films of all time, and rightly so. Still tanked at the box office though.

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Post by Rowley Mon May 16, 2011 9:04 am

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There is no correlation between number of sales and quality. Manny is a superstar, there is no denying that, is a fact most accept and accepted before the fight took place. The figures have merely confirmed what everyone knew and accepted beforehand. Does not in any way mean this was a valid match up. Most accepted it was a poor match up beforehand and the fight confirmed this when it took place. Struggle to see what the PPV figures chance apart from confirming what everyone knew and accepted weeks ago.

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Post by BALTIMORA Mon May 16, 2011 11:23 am

rowley wrote:Dan Brown or Norman Mailer?

The Spice Girls or Arcade Fire?

Pirates of the Caribbean or The Lifes of Others?

There is no correlation between number of sales and quality. Manny is a superstar, there is no denying that, is a fact most accept and accepted before the fight took place. The figures have merely confirmed what everyone knew and accepted beforehand. Does not in any way mean this was a valid match up. Most accepted it was a poor match up beforehand and the fight confirmed this when it took place. Struggle to see what the PPV figures chance apart from confirming what everyone knew and accepted weeks ago.

The Spice Girls by default. Arcade Fire suck donkey balls. Your general point is entirely valid though. Smile

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