Eng V Ireland Sunday 23rd Feb 2020

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3pm at Twickers.
Ref: Jaco Peyper (South Africa), Assistant 1: Romain Poite (France), Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France), TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)

England:: Daly; May, Tuilagi, Farrell (capt), Joseph; Ford, Youngs; Marler, George, Sinckler, Itoje, Kruis, Lawes, Underhill, Curry.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Genge, Stuart, Launchbury, Ewels, Earl, Heinz, Slade.




Ireland: Ireland: Larmour; Conway, Henshaw, Aki, Stockdale; Sexton, Murray; Healy, Herring, Furlong, Henderson, Ryan, O'Mahony, van der Flier, Stander.

Replacements: Kelleher, Kilcoyne, Porter, Toner, Doris, Cooney, Byrne, Earls.

That was an assult!

Be kind.

That's 5 points thrown away by sexton, unless you include the 7 he gifted England...

Tompkins esque performance by him so far!

Gotta say, Joseph has looked good today, granted it's all been on front foot ball, but still.

Weight in that scrum now.

It’s as I said. Ireland aren’t that good unless they can con the officials. They haven’t today; they’re finally getting pinged at the scrum, and Stander and POM are actually getting pinged for their routine breakdown offences. Without the possession they struggle to get into it. The officials have been good today, up until the moment they backed their fellow South African CJ Stander, should have been a penalty reversal at least, he did strike two players after all.

mikey_dragon wrote:It’s as I said. Ireland aren’t that good unless they can con the officials. They haven’t today; they’re finally getting pinged at the scrum, and Stander and POM are actually getting pinged for their routine breakdown offences. Without the possession they struggle to get into it. The officials have been good today, up until the moment they backed their fellow South African CJ Stander, should have been a penalty reversal at least, he did strike two players after all.

Still the clown mikey

just realised Ewells came on for Lawes

Genge is a beast

He does have a bit of a point, ireland scrum were very lucky against wales, as they were at the breakdown.

It makes sense that those a3e the 2 areas they are struggling with this week

When will the ref grow a set and sin bin a cheating angry Irishman?

When they do something illegal / dangerous?

It's very simple. England are the better team. Nothing to do with the ref

LCD again

Farrell is very lucky there, he's gone straight into that maul from the side and in front of the ball carrier...

Another try for England. Luke Cowandickie what a great try for him.

Tmo is rubbish. That try was from a flying wedge and should have been ruled out. 6 of 1 and half a dozen I suppose though.

That’s the game. Need the BP try now.

Nice seeing May building on his back row experience

No 7&1/2 wrote:Tmo is rubbish. That try was from a flying wedge and should have been ruled out. 6 of 1 and half a dozen I suppose though.

Not an expert but I don't get that. Thy just peeled off the side of the maul

For a minute, I thought Farrell joined that maul illegally...

No way, that is an awfull call, May dives around a ruck slaps it out of 9's hands and play on?

You cant carry the ball being supported by a player each side. Ireland have escaped there again with a no arm borderline late tackle.

late late late all day late

Clear late tackle on May. Shocking.

Fan

He did, in front of ball carrier, who peeled around his back.

Some very poor decisions this year, at least a lot of them are coming from New inexperienced refs, can't claim that here tho

And if he was committed to the tackle where were the arms?

Dirtydave wrote:He does have a bit of a point, ireland scrum were very lucky against wales, as they were at the breakdown.

It makes sense that those a3e the 2 areas they are struggling with this week

It gets a bit annoying when they can do it every time under french officials. It’s like watching re-runs of Craig Joubert. Wales have had the short straw this year for sure.

Itoje is very good today.

late and no arms for me ...

Again you can understand the Irish guy chancing the hit but the officials should have picked it up

Ireland's performance today has been like Wales yesterday, despite knowing exactly what's coming, they've played into the defenses hands for no reason.

mikey_dragon wrote:

Dirtydave wrote:He does have a bit of a point, ireland scrum were very lucky against wales, as they were at the breakdown.

It makes sense that those a3e the 2 areas they are struggling with this week

It gets a bit annoying when they can do it every time under french officials. It’s like watching re-runs of Craig Joubert. Wales have had the short straw this year for sure.

Itoje is very good today.

You might have more luck against England Mikey seeing who the ref is ...

Very solid display from England, they should have plenty enough to beat Wales.

Dirtydave wrote:Fan

He did, in front of ball carrier, who peeled around his back.

Some very poor decisions this year, at least a lot of them are coming from New inexperienced refs, can't claim that here tho

If the try had been ruled out for that, I wouldn't have been surprised. It happened in a test a few seasons ago, when backs joined the maul, not knowing what they were doing.

Dirtydave wrote:When they do something illegal / dangerous?

Specsavers have some good deals at the moment.

Heaf wrote:late and no arms for me ...

Disgusting that the TMO was silent on that.

Haven’t seen who the ref is Heaf? 

Good point on Ireland. This looks like the previous 3 games against England, they haven’t figured it out and haven’t been able to rely on a French ref.

I'm sure they do tighthead...

But where would you like a yellow card?

TightHEAD wrote:

Heaf wrote:late and no arms for me ...

Disgusting that the TMO was silent on that.

Open warfare so far. Smashing Curry at the breakdown, punching Farrell, late no arms hit on May - all fine and above board according to the officials.

Lol so many offences. Late reckless clear outs, punches/slaps, persistent foul play or no arms tackles

Ireland have been shocking, backwards step again under Farrell and Catt.

Sexton is cooked.

Lol you lose all credibility by calling an open hand push a punch, if your not illegally holding a player you won't get pushed off...

mikey_dragon wrote:Haven’t seen who the ref is Heaf? 

Good point on Ireland. This looks like the previous 3 games against England, they haven’t figured it out and haven’t been able to rely on a French ref.

Think he's the TMO in the England v Aus match that claimed a pass that went at least 3 yards forwards wasn't clear and obvious and had to be overruled by the ref to avoid handing a try to Aus.

Dirtydave wrote:Lol you lose all credibility by calling an open hand push a punch, if your not illegally holding a player you won't get pushed off...

Wasn't a push. Was an open hand strike for want of a better word.

6 minutes to go and England still wanting to get off the line hard...

Very impressive!

Lost

Well at least your not fighting the punch angle! It was a number of open hand pushes, a slap doesn't involve the arm, and prolonged contact.

lostinwales wrote:

Dirtydave wrote:Lol you lose all credibility by calling an open hand push a punch, if your not illegally holding a player you won't get pushed off...

Wasn't a push. Was an open hand strike for want of a better word.

It was illegal. Poor example to set for Kids.

Typical Saffer.

6 minutes to go and England still wanting to get off the line hard...

Very impressive!

And now we are opening up racial stereotypes for the sake of insult...

Classy!

England have been very very good.
Ireland have looked lost for a lot of it, due to England's pressure, but as has been said it's not like it wasn't expected.

Dirtydave wrote:Lost

Well at least your not fighting the punch angle! It was a number of open hand pushes, a slap doesn't involve the arm, and prolonged contact.

I don't actually think there is a lot of difference between what he did and a punch, but they were not technically punches.

Stander has played like an idiot though. Ireland have got away with a lot of crap

Dirtydave wrote:And now we are opening up racial stereotypes for the sake of insult...

Classy!

He is SA.